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PostSubject: Using the Bible to prove the Bible   Sun Apr 18, 2010 3:25 pm

I have one to put out here. Hope this is the right place....

It's like we are not supposed to use the Bible to prove the Bible is true. What can we say when we need to use the Bible to answer a non-believer? They say it is "circular thinking"
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PostSubject: Re: Using the Bible to prove the Bible   Sat May 01, 2010 12:05 pm

This is not a reasonable argument. Being told not to use the Bible to prove the Bible is like saying…… Don’t prove that the US President lives in the White House by looking into the White house. If you want to prove he lives there you must use another method.

Just silly.

The Bible is well able to prove its authenticity by the multitude of fulfilled prophecies, the power of the words within to radically change lives, the historic longevity of the Bible in withstanding many attempts to eradicate it, the scientific statements within that pre-empt man’s discovered knowledge.
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PostSubject: Re: Using the Bible to prove the Bible   Sat May 01, 2010 12:09 pm

From THE EVIDENCE BIBLE
[This KJV bible has been commended by Josh McDowell, Dr. D. James Kennedy, and Franklin Graham.]

The Bible Stands Alone
Compiled by Jordan and Justin Drake

In 1889 a schoolteacher told a ten-year-old boy, "You will never amount to very much." That boy was Albert Einstein. In 1954 a music manager told a young singer, "You ought to go back to driving a truck." That singer was Elvis Presley. In 1962 a record company told a group of singers, "We don’t like your sound. Groups with guitars are definitely on their way out." They said that to the Beatles. Man is prone to make mistakes. Those who reject the Bible should take the time to look at the evidence before they come to a verdict.

1. It is unique in its continuity.
If just 10 people today were picked who were from the same place, born around the same time, spoke the same language, and made about the same amount of money, and were asked to write on just one controversial subject, they would have trouble agreeing with each other. But the Bible stands alone. It was written over a period of 1,600 years by more than 40 writers from all walks of life. Some were fishermen; some were politicians. Others were generals or kings, shepherds or historians. They were from three different continents, and wrote in three different languages. They wrote on hundreds of controversial subjects yet they wrote with agreement and harmony. They wrote in dungeons, in temples, on beaches, and on hillsides, during peacetime and during war. Yet their words sound like they came from the same source. So even though 10 people today couldn’t write on one controversial subject and agree, God picked 40 different people to write the Bible—and it stands the test of time.

2. It is unique in its circulation.
The invention of the printing press in 1450 made it possible to print books in large quantities. The first book printed was the Bible. Since then, the Bible has been read by more people and printed more times than any other book in history. By 1930, over one billion Bibles had been distributed by Bible societies around the world. By 1977, Bible societies alone were printing over 200 million Bibles each year, and this doesn’t include the rest of the Bible publishing companies. No one who is interested in knowing the truth can ignore such an important book.

3. It is unique in its translation.
The Bible has been translated into over 1,400 languages. No other book even comes close.

4. It is unique in its survival.
In ancient times, books were copied by hand onto manuscripts which were made from parchment and would decay over time. Ancient books are available today only because someone made copies of the originals to preserve them. For example, the original writings of Julius Caesar are no longer around. We know what he wrote only by the copies we have. Only 10 copies still exist, and they were made 1,000 years after he died. Only 600 copies of Homer’s The Iliad exist, made 1,300 years after the originals were written. No other book has as many copies of the ancient manuscripts as the Bible. In fact, there are over 24,000 copies of New Testament manuscripts, some written within 35 years of the writer’s death.

5. It is unique in withstanding attack.
No other book has been so attacked throughout history as the Bible. In A.D. 300 the Roman emperor Diocletian ordered every Bible burned because he thought that by destroying the Scriptures he could destroy Christianity. Anyone caught with a Bible would be executed. But just 25 years later, the Roman emperor Constantine ordered that 50 perfect copies of the Bible be made at government expense. The French philosopher Voltaire, a skeptic who destroyed the faith of many people, boasted that within 100 years of his death, the Bible would disappear from the face of the earth. Voltaire died in 1728, but the Bible lives on. The irony of history is that 50 years after his death, the Geneva Bible Society moved into his former house and used his printing presses to print thousands of Bibles.

The Bible has also survived criticism. No book has been more attacked for its accuracy. And yet archeologists are proving every year that the Bible’s detailed descriptions of historic events are correct. See Matthew 4:4 and 1 Peter 1:25 footnotes.
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PostSubject: Re: Using the Bible to prove the Bible   Tue May 11, 2010 9:05 am

Yeah. The Bible proves itself.
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PostSubject: Re: Using the Bible to prove the Bible   Tue May 11, 2010 2:20 pm

It might be worth starting a new thread about this, or even a new forum.
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PostSubject: Re: Using the Bible to prove the Bible   Tue May 11, 2010 4:31 pm

An excellent idea HB. In fact I will start an Apologetics Forum and see if I can move this Category there...
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