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Barack Obama on camera admits he is a Muslim. A defence for Islam ....... a eulogy.

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Is Obama a Christian?
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Obama has publicly said that he is, infact, a Christian. He has been called a Muslim but says that while he respects Islam, he is not a Muslim (by the way, I do not respect Islam). Obama on being a Christian:

"I am a Christian, and I am a devout Christian. I believe in the redemptive death and resurrection of Jesus Christ. I believe that that faith gives me a path to be cleansed of sin and have eternal life. But most importantly, I believe in the example that Jesus set by feeding the hungry and healing the sick and always prioritizing the least of these over the powerful. I didn't 'fall out in church' as they say, but there was a very strong awakening in me of the importance of these issues in my life. I didn't want to walk alone on this journey. Accepting Jesus Christ in my life has been a powerful guide for my conduct and my values and my ideals." Obamas interview with Christianity Today - [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]

Obama believes that America's greatest moral failure has been a failure to follow the fact that whatever is done for the least, is done for Jesus Christ as found in Matthew 25:40, he says:

"I think America’s greatest moral failure in my lifetime has been that we still don’t abide by that basic precept in Matthew that whatever you do for the least of my brothers, you do for me, and that notion of — that basic principle applies to poverty. It applies to racism and sexism. It applies to, you know, not having — not thinking about providing ladders of opportunity for people to get into the middle class. There’s a pervasive sense, I think, that this country, as wealthy and powerful as we are, still don’t spend enough time thinking about the least of us." Obama, at the Presidential forum at Saddleback Church where both he and Maccain were interviewed, on Question 6. "What does it mean to be a follower of Christ?". (Transcript) - [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]

Obama says he became a Christian in 1985 when...well, why don't I just use his own words, here is President Obama's testimony:

"...So one Sunday, I put on one of the few clean jackets I had, and went over to Trinity United Church of Christ on 95th Street on the South Side of Chicago. And I heard Reverend Jeremiah A. Wright deliver a sermon called "The Audacity of Hope." And during the course of that sermon, he introduced me to someone named Jesus Christ. I learned that my sins could be redeemed. I learned that those things I was too weak to accomplish myself, He would accomplish with me if I placed my trust in Him. And in time, I came to see faith as more than just a comfort to the weary or a hedge against death, but rather as an active, palpable agent in the world and in my own life. It was because of these newfound understandings that I was finally able to walk down the aisle of Trinity one day and affirm my Christian faith. It came about as a choice, and not an epiphany. I didn't fall out in church, as folks sometimes do. The questions I had didn't magically disappear. The skeptical bent of my mind didn't suddenly vanish. But kneeling beneath that cross on the South Side, I felt I heard God's spirit beckoning me. I submitted myself to His will, and dedicated myself to discovering His truth and carrying out His works..."
A Politics of Conscience by Barack Obama. - [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]

Here are a few comments by people who've read this account. By the way, you can click on the link above to read the full testimony.

"For Obama to stand up and talk about how Jesus changed his life, my friends that takes guts. You may disagree with everything he’s about, you may disagree with his policy goals but as Christians, shouldn’t we like it when someone talks about Christ being the missing ingredient in his life?"
-A Mr. David Brody of the Christian Broadcasting Network

"I found this statement breathtaking and refreshing in its straightforwardness."
-A Mr. D. Pulliam
The rest of the article is worth the read....
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Obama And Islam – Treachery At Home

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Islam Under Scrutiny by Ex-Muslims

Four Stages of Islamic Treachery: Islamist Tactics Towards Non-Islamic Societies

by Anonymous

01 Sep, 2007

Based On The Evidence Of 1200 Years Of Islamic History


FACT #1:

The goal of Islam is the subjugation of the entire world to Islam through the establishment of a global Islamic rule and the eradication of all non-Islamic populations, cultures, religions, thoughts, knowledge, symbols, traditions and ways of life.

This goal is non-negotiable in fundamental doctrines of Islam and in the eyes of true Muslims.

FACT #2:

Islamists will not stop their assault (open or clandestine) on the non-Muslim world as long as they have not achieved Islamic rule.

FACT #3:

IN ISLAMIC TEACHING, THE END ALWAYS JUSTIFIES THE MEANS: Islamists have no respect for the rules, laws or values of the non-Islamic world, to them only the rules of the Islamic world are legitimate. In their mind, when they destroy the non-Islamic world then the rules will change to Islamic rules, laws and values.

FACT #4:

ISLAMISTS CONSIDER TREATIES WITH NON-MUSLIMS AS NON-BINDING. When in non-Muslim countries they will pretend a social behavior as a cover up to their true intentions of domination over the non Muslim world.

TIP: When it comes to Islamists, ALWAYS LOOK AT WHAT THEY DO, NEVER WHAT THEY SAY: Lying, treachery and deceit are the Islamists' tactic of choice in their jihad of conquest of the non-Muslim world. This tactic (AL-TAQIYYA, or religious deception, pretending to be friends of the Non-Muslims in order to strengthen themselves against them) is a commonly practiced by Islamists. DECEPTION IS THE KEY TACTIC EMPLOYED BY ISLAMISTS.

FACT #5:

As a rule of thumb to get the truth from any Islamist, simply reverse what they say to a non-Muslim.

FACT #6:

The founder of Islam, MUHAMMAD WAS AN ISLAMIST.

Whether you able to face or ignore this harsh reality is beside the point, you will inevitably face its truth on the day you find yourself within the killing zone of Islamists.

Stages of Islamization


* First migration wave to target non-Muslim society.
* Appeal for humanitarian tolerance from the target non-Muslim society.
* Characterized by professed tolerance of others and their beliefs.
* Attempts to portray Islam as a peaceful religion and Muslims as victims of misunderstanding and racism.
* Images of women and children used to portray Muslims.
* Establishment of mosques as power bases (today globally funded by Gulf countries oil revenue). (Mosques are safe havens for Jihadi recruitment and subversive projects).
* Muslim leaders promote large push for increased Muslim births in target non-Muslim society to increase native Muslim population.
* Misrepresentation of their intentions or aims as a cover up for clandestine operations.


* Proselytizing efforts increase.
* Establishment and recruitment of fundamentalist Jihadi cells.
* Efforts to convert alienated segments of the population of target non-Muslim society to Islam.
* Revisionist efforts to Islamize history.
* Efforts to destroy all evidence of incriminating historical evidence and sources that reveal true character of Islamism.
* Intellectual Jihad to discredit non-Muslim culture.
* Assault on cultural assumptions and icons of the non-Muslim world, such as democracy, law and science.
* Increased dissemination of anti-western propaganda and anti-western psychological warfare.
* Efforts to recruit allies who share similar goals (Communists, socialists, anti westerns activists, anti-globalists, anarchists).
* Alliances with the enemies of the Western society particularly anti capitalism leftists. "The enemy of my enemy is my friend"
* Attempts to indoctrinate children to Islamist viewpoint. Efforts to infiltrate education system to propagate pro-Islamic points of view.
* Increased efforts to intimidate, silence and eliminate non-Muslim intellectuals and leaders.
* Efforts to introduce blasphemy laws into non-Muslim society in order to silence critics.
* Continued focus on enlarging Muslim population by increasing Muslim births and migration to target non-Muslim society.
* Use of first and second generation Muslim citizens of target non-Muslim society as Jihadist foot soldiers and public fronts.
* Use of charities to recruit supporters.
* Use of crime and fraud to obtain funds to finance activities.
* Covert efforts to bring about the destruction of non-Muslim society from within.
* Development of Muslim political base in target non-Muslim society. Efforts to penetrate political and legal structure of country so as to support Islamic growth from within.
* Use of bribes and blackmail of non-Muslim authorities to get them to disregard establishment of subversive activities.
* Islamic Financial networks strengthened to fund political growth, large acquisition of land and resources by any means. (Today they are funded by Muslim charities; Gulf countries Oil revenue and criminal activities).
* Highly visible assassination of critics aimed to intimidate opposition.
* Tolerance of non-Muslims diminishes and greater demands are placed upon Muslims to adopt strict Islamic conduct.
* Clandestine amassing of weapons and explosives stores in hidden locations in target non-Muslim society.
* Continuous and covert attacks and challenges against target non-Muslim society leaders and religious symbols.
* Overt disregard and rejection of target non-Muslim society's legal system and culture.
* Efforts to undermine and destroy power base of non-Muslim religions such as Jews, Christians, Hindus or Buddhists in target non-Muslim society.
* Efforts to destroy the social structure of the country and bring the downfall of non-Muslim government.
* Use of Islamic gangs in campaign of fear and terror against Jews, Christians, Hindus and non-Muslims to reduce their populations and influence in the target non-Muslim society.


* Large-scale destruction of population, assassinations, killings, bombings.
* Intentional efforts to spread chaos in the target country to undermine its government and culture.
* Acts of barbarity and fierceness as a deliberate policy intended to foster submission of opponents.
* Open and covert efforts to cause economic collapse of the society.
* All opposition, no matter what kind, is challenged and either eradicated or silenced.
* Widespread ethnic cleansing with Islamic militias.
* Rejection and defiance of target society secular laws or culture.
* Murder of all opposition political, religious and intellectual leaders of target society.
* Murder of all moderate Muslim intellectuals who envision other alternatives to radical Islam.
* Toppling of government and usurpation of political power.
* Imposition of Sharia law.
* Mass execution of non-Muslims, ethnic cleansing.


* The Qur’an and the Sharia becomes the "law of the land. "
* All non-Islamic human rights cancelled.
* Freedom of speech and the press eradicated.
* All Religions other than Islam are forbidden and destroyed.
* Enslavement and genocide of non-Muslim population.
* Destruction of all evidence of non-Muslim culture, groups and symbols in country.

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